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	<title>Comments on: Where Star Trek: Voyager Went Wrong</title>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.deepgeeking.com/2008/09/27/where-star-trek-voyager-went-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-164</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Tovok 
&quot; Tim Russ did an excellent job of portraying a Vulcan whose focus was security, not science. Was it realistic having a black Vulcan?&quot; 

Dark skin would make sense for a Vulcan, being from a sunny planet. Vulcans even have a special inner eyelids for Solar protection, so they should look the part. 

Making Tuvok head of security was a brain fart, he&#039;d have to justify to much to be effective.  It is hard to imagine a Vulcan joining Star Fleet a security officer. Maybe if he never lived on Vulcan. The writers were trying to confuse stereotypes, but I think a Klingon consoler  would have been better.

Seven of Nine I liked, she had the science firepower missing from the cast. She should have been a nature romantic interest yet not perused  for Tuvok. Two really deadpan characters. The Doctor was ok.

 As for B’Elanna Torres, Harry Kim, Tom Paris good grief I could bearing watch them.

Janeway was one the least likable/interesting characters I&#039;ve ever seen. She combined the least likable traits of Kirk (bull headed), McCoy ( fast to jump to a conclusion, and Spock ( unsympathetic). I could go on, believe me.




-t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Tovok<br />
&#8221; Tim Russ did an excellent job of portraying a Vulcan whose focus was security, not science. Was it realistic having a black Vulcan?&#8221; </p>
<p>Dark skin would make sense for a Vulcan, being from a sunny planet. Vulcans even have a special inner eyelids for Solar protection, so they should look the part. </p>
<p>Making Tuvok head of security was a brain fart, he&#8217;d have to justify to much to be effective.  It is hard to imagine a Vulcan joining Star Fleet a security officer. Maybe if he never lived on Vulcan. The writers were trying to confuse stereotypes, but I think a Klingon consoler  would have been better.</p>
<p>Seven of Nine I liked, she had the science firepower missing from the cast. She should have been a nature romantic interest yet not perused  for Tuvok. Two really deadpan characters. The Doctor was ok.</p>
<p> As for B’Elanna Torres, Harry Kim, Tom Paris good grief I could bearing watch them.</p>
<p>Janeway was one the least likable/interesting characters I&#8217;ve ever seen. She combined the least likable traits of Kirk (bull headed), McCoy ( fast to jump to a conclusion, and Spock ( unsympathetic). I could go on, believe me.</p>
<p>-t</p>
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		<title>By: Starstuff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Starstuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Voyager first hit the airwaves ... pardon me: space, I was pretty excited. Finally a &quot;real&quot; ST show again, with a space ship, exploration and adventure - that was my initial reaction. But it became clear to me pretty fast that this wasn&#039;t the real deal either. 

While the idea of a female captain was neat, I felt that the writers pushed to concept too much: as Lejon above put it, they made her too hard, too manly. Apart from that the acting made me sigh out loud more than once. It never felt natural to have her there and putting a female in as the chief engineer was just overdoing it. I am female myself, but when I see producers and writers try to rub it into people&#039;s face all the time that we can do all that stuff as well, it becomes comical rather than a statement.

Overall, it was a good concept, but they did not nearly get out of it what would have been possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Voyager first hit the airwaves &#8230; pardon me: space, I was pretty excited. Finally a &#8220;real&#8221; ST show again, with a space ship, exploration and adventure &#8211; that was my initial reaction. But it became clear to me pretty fast that this wasn&#8217;t the real deal either. </p>
<p>While the idea of a female captain was neat, I felt that the writers pushed to concept too much: as Lejon above put it, they made her too hard, too manly. Apart from that the acting made me sigh out loud more than once. It never felt natural to have her there and putting a female in as the chief engineer was just overdoing it. I am female myself, but when I see producers and writers try to rub it into people&#8217;s face all the time that we can do all that stuff as well, it becomes comical rather than a statement.</p>
<p>Overall, it was a good concept, but they did not nearly get out of it what would have been possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Voyager blows. Agreed.
How about an essay on DS9? What happend? Summer got your tongue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voyager blows. Agreed.<br />
How about an essay on DS9? What happend? Summer got your tongue?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve from Liverpool</title>
		<link>http://www.deepgeeking.com/2008/09/27/where-star-trek-voyager-went-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve from Liverpool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one that ruined Voyager for me, the one that showed it Paramount lost the plot, the one that showed they ripped up the success of DS9, the one where the ship was under attack from ... drum roll...  was is the Kazon?  Nope.  The Borg?  Nope.  Cheese.  Cheese????

Seriously, the ship could be damaged beyond repair because of Nelix&#039;s cheese...??? 

DS9 showed what good Trek is all about, sure it ripped off B5, but still it was good Trek.  Voyager showed what was wrong with the Trek universe, and annoyingly they continued the downward spiral with Enterprise.  &quot;It shouldve been...&quot; is a phrase that will live with Paramount for ever, and will stop future TV show&#039;s based in the Trek universe being on TV again for another 15 years at least...

Shame really...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one that ruined Voyager for me, the one that showed it Paramount lost the plot, the one that showed they ripped up the success of DS9, the one where the ship was under attack from &#8230; drum roll&#8230;  was is the Kazon?  Nope.  The Borg?  Nope.  Cheese.  Cheese????</p>
<p>Seriously, the ship could be damaged beyond repair because of Nelix&#8217;s cheese&#8230;??? </p>
<p>DS9 showed what good Trek is all about, sure it ripped off B5, but still it was good Trek.  Voyager showed what was wrong with the Trek universe, and annoyingly they continued the downward spiral with Enterprise.  &#8220;It shouldve been&#8230;&#8221; is a phrase that will live with Paramount for ever, and will stop future TV show&#8217;s based in the Trek universe being on TV again for another 15 years at least&#8230;</p>
<p>Shame really&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lejon from Chandler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lejon from Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Voyager, Voyager - Where did you go wrong?
Was it your female captain who was so manly and strong?
Did the Maquis vote too quickly to sing the Federation&#039;s song?
The milk-toast plot line that stretched a season too long?

Yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voyager, Voyager &#8211; Where did you go wrong?<br />
Was it your female captain who was so manly and strong?<br />
Did the Maquis vote too quickly to sing the Federation&#8217;s song?<br />
The milk-toast plot line that stretched a season too long?</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
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